With Tremendous Tuesday within the rearview mirror, we glance to what’s to come back on Huge Tuesday and the way the coronavirus will have an effect on the presidential election.
SCOTT SIMON, HOST:
The Democratic race for the presidential nomination shifted on its axis this week. Earlier than Tremendous Tuesday, Bernie Sanders was within the lead, nevertheless it was Joe Biden who received 10 of 14 states. Huge Tuesday is subsequent. Six states maintain primaries. And NPR’s senior editor and correspondent Ron Elving joins us. Ron, thanks a lot for being with us.
RON ELVING, BYLINE: Good to be with you, Scott.
SIMON: Boy, loads has modified. And I do not know anybody who predicted it. Joe Biden now appears to be barely forward within the race. In any case these crowded debates onstage, it appears to now be down to 2 main candidates.
ELVING: You consider that final crowded debate stage – 5 of these seven individuals are gone. And after we talked final week, Scott – after I talked to you from South Carolina – we thought Biden was going to win there, however we had no concept he was going to blow the doorways off, win by almost 30 factors, recover from 1 / 4 of 1,000,000 votes and knock out Tom Steyer, Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar on the spot. After which, as you say, Joe Biden astounded everybody by profitable these 10 of 14 states on Tremendous Tuesday, profitable in states the place he had scarcely campaigned, ending a good second in California with out working any tv adverts in California. So now we now have two white males born within the first half of the final century. So apparently, the underside line on that complete, OK, boomer factor was, OK, boomer, step apart and let somebody extra mature have a time period.
SIMON: Earlier than we go into subsequent week, as we all know it, quite a lot of specialists appear to have gotten issues flawed. So did candidates. So did their high-priced consultants. Did we study which you can spend tens of millions on adverts, and it will get you model recognition like peanut butter however not essentially votes?
ELVING: Now, you is likely to be speaking about Mike Bloomberg right here, Scott.
ELVING: He spent greater than $500 million and received solely American Samoa. Now, you understand, it is a particular second while you first meet a punchline you will be utilizing for the remainder of your life.
ELVING: Regardless of how properly you promote your peanut butter, you continue to should put some good peanut butter within the jar, or individuals are going to return to Skippy or another model they know.
SIMON: And did we study that it doesn’t matter what polls present about totally different demographics, they do not at all times materialize as votes?
ELVING: You realize, they do not at all times. Polls say that voters underneath 30 love Bernie Sanders, however the outcomes say voters underneath 30 did not present up in adequate numbers to make the distinction for him – not simply in South Carolina however throughout Tremendous Tuesday. And however, essentially the most steadfast voters within the Democratic coalition, black voters – and particularly older black ladies – do present up and did present up. And that is largely why Biden is the brand new frontrunner.
SIMON: What are you going to look at for this Tuesday?
ELVING: Nicely, we acquired six states. Two fairly small ones in North Dakota and Idaho, the place Sanders ought to do properly. Mississippi with its massive black inhabitants will likely be massive for Biden. After which three states with massive cities, Michigan, Missouri and Washington, good floor for Sanders in 2016. He received 2 out of three, just about tied in Missouri. However these are additionally states the place the Democratic officeholders appear to be coalescing at this level behind Biden.
SIMON: The coronavirus outbreak – numerous criticism over how the Trump administration is dealing with it and misinforming the general public.
ELVING: That is the most important wild card that is been thrown into an American political season for the reason that collapse of Wall Avenue in September of 2008. And also you bear in mind, that occasion reversed the momentum in that race and established and opened the door for then-Senator Barack Obama to change into President Obama. So the polls rotated fairly shortly then, and Obama by no means trailed after that. Within the current scenario, President Trump has resolved to powerful it out, insists the disaster is both not as unhealthy because it seems to be or insisting it is not going to harm him. However he has already needed to push out his chief of employees, his – we now have his fourth in three years and two months. And he is additionally gotten sideways with a few of his personal high well being officers. So this may very well be the problem the place the president’s freewheeling fashion and his reliance on saying, belief me – I am a really secure genius – or my uncle was a scientist at MIT – doesn’t have its standard success. The president appeared bulletproof simply a few months in the past after impeachment, however should you’re within the Trump camp proper now, there are some causes to be frightened.
SIMON: NPR senior editor and correspondent Ron Elving. Thanks a lot for being with us, Ron.
ELVING: Thanks, Scott.
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